☸Dhamma-vitakka💭
Dharma thoughts
+☸Dhamma-vitakka 💭: Thoughts related to ☸Dharma
🔬detailed analysis.
This can occur inside or outside of first Jhāna.
In AN 8.30 they're explicitly called "Dhamma vitakka", but in other suttas they can be referred to as Dhamma, as samadhi nimittas, as anus-sati/recollections, as perceptions/sañña.
Especially as 👑8☸ → Sammā-saṅkappo.
AN 5.57 ☸5, AN 6.10 buddha, dhamma..., AN 8.30 Anuruddha, AN 10.48 ☸10,
SN 46 #57-76: 20 meditation subjects that feed in 7sb machine. They can occurs as perceptions in 2nd jhana and up, or as V&V in first jhana.
🐴🐎💭 Book 2: Dhamma vitakka related suttas: You can lead a horse to first jhana, but you can’t make him think.
V&V💭: comprehensive study on vitakka & vicāra
This can occur inside or outside of first Jhāna.
In AN 8.30 they're explicitly called "Dhamma vitakka", but in other suttas they can be referred to as Dhamma, as samadhi nimittas, as anus-sati/recollections, as perceptions/sañña.
Especially as 👑8☸ → Sammā-saṅkappo.
AN 5.57 ☸5, AN 6.10 buddha, dhamma..., AN 8.30 Anuruddha, AN 10.48 ☸10,
SN 46 #57-76: 20 meditation subjects that feed in 7sb machine. They can occurs as perceptions in 2nd jhana and up, or as V&V in first jhana.
🐴🐎💭 Book 2: Dhamma vitakka related suttas: You can lead a horse to first jhana, but you can’t make him think.
V&V💭: comprehensive study on vitakka & vicāra
DPR Results for dhammavitakk
Vin: 0
DN: 2
MN: 2
SN: 0
AN: 4
KN: 5
adhammavitakkaṃ (1) dhammavitakke (2)
dhammavitakkaṃ (1) dhammavitakkehi (1)
dhammavitakkaññeva (1) dhammavitakko (7)
dhammavitakkāvasissati (1) dhammavitakkovasissati (1)
Vin
DN
+0.1 – DN 22 part of 6 sense base vitakka vicara dependent origination of tanha/craving
all
+§1.1 – DN 22
DN 2, 9. mahāsatipaṭṭhānasuttaṃ, samudayasaccaniddeso DN 22.16,
para.
11 ⇒
| 4.5.2. Samudayasaccaniddesa | 4.5.2. The Origin of Suffering | |
| … | … | |
| Rūpavitakko loke … | Thoughts about sights … | |
| saddavitakko loke … | thoughts about sounds … | |
| gandhavitakko loke … | thoughts about smells … | |
| rasavitakko loke … | thoughts about tastes … | |
| phoṭṭhabbavitakko loke … | thoughts about touches … | |
| dhammavitakko loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ, etthesā taṇhā uppajjamānā uppajjati, ettha nivisamānā nivisati. | thoughts about thoughts in the world seem nice and pleasant, and it is there that craving arises and settles. | |
| Rūpavicāro loke … | Considerations regarding sights … | |
| saddavicāro loke … | considerations regarding sounds … | |
| gandhavicāro loke … | considerations regarding smells … | |
| rasavicāro loke … | considerations regarding tastes … | |
| phoṭṭhabbavicāro loke … | considerations regarding touches … | |
| dhammavicāro loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ, etthesā taṇhā uppajjamānā uppajjati, ettha nivisamānā nivisati. | considerations regarding thoughts in the world seem nice and pleasant, and it is there that craving arises and settles. | |
| Idaṃ vuccati, bhikkhave, dukkhasamudayaṃ ariyasaccaṃ. | This is called the noble truth of the origin of suffering. | |
+0.2 – MN 10 (in burmese canon same as DN 22)
all
+§2.1 – MN 10
MN 1, 1. mūlapariyāyavaggo, 10. mahāsatipaṭṭhānasuttaṃ,
nirodhasaccaniddeso MN 10.18, para.
11 ⇒
“rūpavitakko loke.
saddavitakko loke.
gandhavitakko loke.
rasavitakko loke.
phoṭṭhabbavitakko loke.
dhammavitakko loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ,
etthesā taṇhā pahīyamānā pahīyati, ettha nirujjhamānā nirujjhati.
SN
AN
+0.3 – AN 3.101 simile of gold, first jhana
all
+§3.1 – AN 3.101
AN 3, 2. dutiyapaṇṇāsakaṃ, (10) 5. loṇakapallavaggo,
10. paṃsudhovakasuttaṃ AN 3.102, para.
2 ⇒
| (monk’s fine impurities) | ||
| Tasmiṃ pahīne tasmiṃ byantīkate santi adhicittamanuyuttassa bhikkhuno sukhumasahagatā upakkilesā | When he is rid of them there remain in him the fine impurities: | |
| ñātivitakko janapadavitakko anavaññattipaṭisaṃyutto vitakko, | thoughts of his caste, thoughts of his home district, thoughts related to not wanting to be despised. | |
| tamenaṃ sacetaso bhikkhu dabbajātiko pajahati vinodeti byantīkaroti anabhāvaṃ gameti. (first jhana) |
These he abandons, destroys, dispels, wipes out of existence. | |
| Tasmiṃ pahīne tasmiṃ byantīkate athāparaṃ dhammavitakkāvasissanti. | “When he is rid of them, there remain only thoughts of the Dhamma. | |
| So hoti samādhi na ceva santo na ca paṇīto nappaṭippassaddhaladdho na ekodibhāvādhigato sasaṅkhāraniggayhavāritagato. | His concentration is neither peaceful nor refined, has not yet attained calm or unification, and is kept in place by the fabrication of forceful restraint. | |
+0.4 – AN 5.73 Dhamma vitakketi (verb), oral tradition, samatha and jhana
all
+§4.1 – AN 5.73
AN 5, 2. dutiyapaṇṇāsakaṃ, (8) 3. yodhājīvavaggo,
3. paṭhamadhammavihārīsuttaṃ AN 5.73,
para.
5 ⇒
| Puna caparaṃ, bhikkhu, bhikkhu yathāsutaṃ yathāpariyattaṃ dhammaṃ cetasā anuvitakketi anuvicāreti manasānupekkhati. | Furthermore, a monk thinks about and considers the teaching in their heart, examining it with the mind as they learned and memorized it. | |
| So tehi dhammavitakkehi divasaṃ atināmeti, riñcati paṭisallānaṃ, nānuyuñjati ajjhattaṃ cetosamathaṃ. | They spend their days thinking about that teaching. But they neglect retreat, and are not committed to internal serenity of heart. | |
| Ayaṃ vuccati, bhikkhu: ‘bhikkhu vitakkabahulo, no dhammavihārī’. | That monk is called one who thinks a lot, not one who lives by the teaching. |
+0.5 – AN 7.95 just listing dhamma-vitakka as part of 6 sense base, as in DN 22
all
+§5.1 – AN 7.95
AN 7, dutiyapaṇṇāsakaṃ, 10. āhuneyyavaggo (AN 7.95-96-622),
para.
13 ⇒
rūpavitakke. pe.
saddavitakke.
gandhavitakke.
rasavitakke.
phoṭṭhabbavitakke.
dhammavitakke. pe.
+0.6 – AN 8.30 eight great Dhamma-vitakka thoughts for first jhana
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+§6.1 – AN 8.30
| (buddha adds one more to 7 great vitakka) ♦ “sādhu sādhu, anuruddha! |
“Good, Anuruddha, very good. | |
| sādhu kho tvaṃ, anuruddha, | It’s good that you think | |
| (yaṃ taṃ mahā-purisa-vitakkaṃ) vitakkesi — | these thoughts of a great person: | |
| (1) ‘app'-icchassāyaṃ dhammo, | (1) ‘This Dhamma is for one of few-desires, | |
| nāyaṃ dhammo mah'-icchassa; | not for one of many-desires. | |
| (2) santuṭṭhassāyaṃ dhammo, | (2) This Dhamma is for one who is content, | |
| nāyaṃ dhammo a-santuṭṭhassa; | not for one who is dis-content. | |
| (3) pavivittassāyaṃ dhammo, | (3) This Dhamma is for one who is reclusive, | |
| nāyaṃ dhammo saṅgaṇik-ārāmassa; | not for one who who delights-in-social-gathering. | |
| (4) āraddha-vīriyassāyaṃ dhammo, | (4) This Dhamma is for one of aroused-vigor, | |
| nāyaṃ dhammo kusītassa; | not for one who is lazy. | |
| (5) upaṭṭhitas-satissāyaṃ dhammo, | (5) This Dhamma is for one who has established-mindfulness, | |
| nāyaṃ dhammo muṭṭhas-satissa; | not for one of muddled-mindfulness. | |
| (6) samāhitassāyaṃ dhammo, | (6) This Dhamma is for one who is concentrated, | |
| nāyaṃ dhammo a-samāhitassa; | not for one who is un-concentrated. | |
| (7) paññavato ayaṃ dhammo, | (7) This Dhamma is for one endowed with discernment, | |
| nāyaṃ dhammo dup-paññassā’ti. | not for one of dubious-discernment.’ | |
| tena hi tvaṃ, anuruddha, | Now then, Anuruddha, | |
| imam-pi aṭṭhamaṃ mahā-purisa-vitakkaṃ vitakkehi — | the eighth great-person's-thought (that one) thinks: | |
| (8) ‘nip-papañc-ārāmassāyaṃ dhammo nip-papañca-ratino, | (8) ‘This Dhamma is for one who enjoys non-proliferation-[of-objectification],-1- who delights in non-proliferation, | |
| n-āyaṃ dhammo papañc-ārāmassa papañca-ratino’”ti. | not-for-one who enjoys & delights in proliferation-[of-objectification].’ | |
| (8 great vitakka lead to 4j) | ||
| ♦ “yato kho tvaṃ, anuruddha, ime aṭṭha mahāpurisavitakke vitakkessasi, | “Anuruddha, when you think these eight thoughts of a great person, then— | |
| tato tvaṃ, anuruddha, yāvadeva VAR ākaṅkhissasi, | whenever you want— | |
| vivicceva kāmehi vivicca akusalehi dhammehi savitakkaṃ savicāraṃ vivekajaṃ pītisukhaṃ paṭhamaṃ jhānaṃ upasampajja viharissasi. | quite secluded from sensuality, secluded from unskillful qualities, you will enter & remain in the first jhāna: rapture & pleasure born of seclusion, accompanied by directed thought & evaluation. | |
| ♦ “yato kho tvaṃ, anuruddha, ime aṭṭha mahāpurisavitakke vitakkessasi, tato tvaṃ, anuruddha, yāvadeva ākaṅkhissasi, vitakkavicārānaṃ vūpasamā ajjhattaṃ sampasādanaṃ cetaso ekodibhāvaṃ avitakkaṃ avicāraṃ samādhijaṃ pītisukhaṃ dutiyaṃ jhānaṃ upasampajja viharissasi. | When you think these eight thoughts of a great person, then—whenever you want—with the stilling of directed thoughts & evaluations, you will enter & remain in the second jhāna: rapture & pleasure born of concentration, unification of awareness free from directed thought & evaluation—internal assurance. | |
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+0.7 – AN 11.22 just listing dhamma-vitakka as part of 6 sense base, as in DN 22
all
+§7.1 – AN 11.22
AN 11, 3. sāmaññavaggo (AN 11.22-29-454-501),
para.
11 ⇒
406-453. ṛūpavitakke.
saddavitakke.
gandhavitakke.
rasavitakke.
phoṭṭhabbavitakke.
dhammavitakke.
KN
+0.8 – KN Iti 86 dhamma and not dhamma thoughts in “dhamma-anu-dhamma-patipanna”
all
+§8.1 – Iti-vuttaka 86
KN It, 3. tikanipāto, 4. catutthavaggo,
7. dhammānudhammapaṭipannasuttaṃ 86,
para.
2 ⇒
| dhamm-ānu-dhamma-paṭipannoyanti | it is this way of according with the Dhamma that he should be described as practicing the Dhamma in accordance with the Dhamma. | |
| bhāsamāno dhammaññeva bhāsati no a-dhammaṃ, | When speaking, he speaks Dhamma and not non-Dhamma. | |
| vitakkayamāno vā dhamma-vitakkaññeva vitakketi no a-dhamma-vitakkaṃ, | When thinking, he thinks about Dhamma and not about non-Dhamma. | |
| tadubhayaṃ vā pana abhinivejjetvā | Avoiding both these things, | |
| upekkhako viharati sato sampajāno”ti. | he stays equanimous, mindful, alert.” | |
KN Nidd II, pārāyanavaggo, pārāyanavagganiddeso,
8. hemakamāṇavapucchāniddeso, para.
29 ⇒
piyarūpesu hemakāti kiñca loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ?
cakkhu {cakkhuṃ (syā.
ka.)} loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ, sotaṃ loke. pe.
ghānaṃ loke.
jivhā loke.
kāyo loke.
mano loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ; rūpā loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ,
saddā loke.
gandhā loke.
rasā loke.
phoṭṭhabbā loke.
dhammā loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ; cakkhuviññāṇaṃ loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ,
sotaviññāṇaṃ loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ,
ghānaviññāṇaṃ loke.
jivhāviññāṇaṃ loke.
kāyaviññāṇaṃ loke.
manoviññāṇaṃ loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ,
cakkhusamphasso loke.
sotasamphasso loke.
ghānasamphasso loke.
jivhāsamphasso loke.
kāyasamphasso loke.
manosamphasso loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ; cakkhusamphassajā vedanā loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ.
sotasamphassajā vedanā.
ghānasamphassajā vedanā.
jivhāsamphassajā vedanā.
kāyasamphassajā vedanā.
manosamphassajā vedanā loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ; rūpasaññā loke.
saddasaññā loke.
gandhasaññā loke.
rasasaññā loke.
phoṭṭhabbasaññā loke.
dhammasaññā loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ,
rūpasañcetanā loke.
saddasañcetanā loke.
gandhasañcetanā loke.
rasasañcetanā loke.
phoṭṭhabbasañcetanā loke.
dhammasañcetanā loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ; rūpataṇhā loke.
saddataṇhā loke.
gandhataṇhā loke.
rasataṇhā loke.
phoṭṭhabbataṇhā loke.
dhammataṇhā loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ; rūpavitakko loke.
saddavitakko loke.
gandhavitakko loke.
rasavitakko loke.
phoṭṭhabbavitakko loke.
dhammavitakko loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ; rūpavicāro loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ,
saddavicāro loke.
gandhavicāro loke.
rasavicāro loke.
phoṭṭhabbavicāro loke.
dhammavicāro loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpanti — piyarūpesu hemaka.
KN Paṭis, 1. mahāvaggo, 1. ñāṇakathā,
1. sutamayañāṇaniddeso, para.
22 ⇒
cakkhu abhiññeyyaṃ; sotaṃ abhiññeyyaṃ; ghānaṃ abhiññeyyaṃ; jivhā abhiññeyyā; kāyo abhiññeyyo; mano abhiññeyyo.
rūpā abhiññeyyā; saddā abhiññeyyā; gandhā abhiññeyyā; rasā abhiññeyyā; phoṭṭhabbā abhiññeyyā; dhammā abhiññeyyā.
cakkhuviññāṇaṃ abhiññeyyaṃ; sotaviññāṇaṃ abhiññeyyaṃ; ghānaviññāṇaṃ
abhiññeyyaṃ; jivhāviññāṇaṃ abhiññeyyaṃ; kāyaviññāṇaṃ abhiññeyyaṃ; manoviññāṇaṃ abhiññeyyaṃ.
cakkhusamphasso abhiññeyyo; sotasamphasso abhiññeyyo; ghānasamphasso
abhiññeyyo; jivhāsamphasso abhiññeyyo; kāyasamphasso abhiññeyyo;
manosamphasso abhiññeyyo; cakkhusamphassajā vedanā abhiññeyyā;
sotasamphassajā vedanā abhiññeyyā; ghānasamphassajā vedanā abhiññeyyā;
jivhāsamphassajā vedanā abhiññeyyā; kāyasamphassajā vedanā abhiññeyyā; manosamphassajā vedanā abhiññeyyā.
rūpasaññā abhiññeyyā; saddasaññā abhiññeyyā; gandhasaññā abhiññeyyā;
rasasaññā abhiññeyyā; phoṭṭhabbasaññā abhiññeyyā; dhammasaññā abhiññeyyā.
rūpasañcetanā abhiññeyyā; saddasañcetanā abhiññeyyā; gandhasañcetanā
abhiññeyyā; rasasañcetanā abhiññeyyā; phoṭṭhabbasañcetanā abhiññeyyā; dhammasañcetanā abhiññeyyā.
rūpataṇhā abhiññeyyā; saddataṇhā abhiññeyyā; gandhataṇhā abhiññeyyā;
rasataṇhā abhiññeyyā; phoṭṭhabbataṇhā abhiññeyyā; dhammataṇhā abhiññeyyā.
rūpavitakko abhiññeyyo; saddavitakko abhiññeyyo; gandhavitakko
abhiññeyyo; rasavitakko abhiññeyyo; phoṭṭhabbavitakko abhiññeyyo; dhammavitakko abhiññeyyo.
rūpavicāro abhiññeyyo; saddavicāro abhiññeyyo; gandhavicāro abhiññeyyo;
rasavicāro abhiññeyyo; phoṭṭhabbavicāro abhiññeyyo; dhammavicāro abhiññeyyo.
KN Paṭis, 1. mahāvaggo, 1. ñāṇakathā,
1. sutamayañāṇaniddeso, para.
140 ⇒
34. tattha katamaṃ dukkhasamudayaṃ ariyasaccaṃ? yāyaṃ taṇhā ponobhavikā {ponobbhavikā (syā.)} nandirāgasahagatā tatratatrābhinandinī, seyyathidaṃ — kāmataṇhā bhavataṇhā vibhavataṇhā, sā kho panesā taṇhā kattha uppajjamānā uppajjati, kattha nivisamānā nivisati? yaṃ loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ, etthesā taṇhā uppajjamānā uppajjati, ettha nivisamānā nivisati. kiñca loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ? cakkhu loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ, etthesā taṇhā uppajjamānā uppajjati, ettha nivisamānā nivisati. sotaṃ loke. pe. ghānaṃ loke. jivhā loke. kāyo loke. mano loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ, etthesā taṇhā uppajjamānā uppajjati, ettha nivisamānā nivisati. rūpā loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ, etthesā taṇhā uppajjamānā uppajjati, ettha nivisamānā nivisati. saddā loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ. pe. dhammā loke. cakkhuviññāṇaṃ loke. pe. manoviññāṇaṃ loke. cakkhusamphasso loke. pe. manosamphasso loke. cakkhusamphassajā vedanā loke. pe. manosamphassajā vedanā loke. rūpasaññā loke. pe. dhammasaññā loke. rūpasañcetanā loke. pe. dhammasañcetanā loke. rūpataṇhā loke. pe. dhammataṇhā loke. rūpavitakko loke. pe. dhammavitakko loke. rūpavicāro loke. pe. dhammavicāro loke piyarūpaṃ sātarūpaṃ, etthesā taṇhā uppajjamānā uppajjati, ettha nivisamānā nivisati. idaṃ vuccati dukkhasamudayaṃ ariyasaccaṃ.
KN Paṭis, 1. mahāvaggo, 2. diṭṭhikathā,,
para.
4 ⇒
rūpasaññaṃ etaṃ mama. pe.
saddasaññaṃ etaṃ mama.
gandhasaññaṃ etaṃ mama.
rasasaññaṃ etaṃ mama.
phoṭṭhabbasaññaṃ etaṃ mama.
dhammasaññaṃ etaṃ mama, esohamasmi, eso me attāti — abhinivesaparāmāso diṭṭhi.
rūpasañcetanaṃ etaṃ mama. pe.
saddasañcetanaṃ etaṃ mama.
gandhasañcetanaṃ etaṃ mama.
rasasañcetanaṃ etaṃ mama.
phoṭṭhabbasañcetanaṃ etaṃ mama.
dhammasañcetanaṃ etaṃ mama, esohamasmi,
eso me attāti — abhinivesaparāmāso diṭṭhi.
rūpataṇhaṃ etaṃ mama. pe.
saddataṇhaṃ etaṃ mama.
gandhataṇhaṃ etaṃ mama.
rasataṇhaṃ etaṃ mama.
phoṭṭhabbataṇhaṃ etaṃ mama.
dhammataṇhaṃ etaṃ mama, esohamasmi, eso me attāti — abhinivesaparāmāso diṭṭhi.
rūpavitakkaṃ etaṃ mama. pe.
saddavitakkaṃ etaṃ mama.
gandhavitakkaṃ etaṃ mama.
rasavitakkaṃ etaṃ mama.
phoṭṭhabbavitakkaṃ etaṃ mama.
dhammavitakkaṃ etaṃ mama, esohamasmi,
eso me attāti — abhinivesaparāmāso diṭṭhi.
rūpavicāraṃ etaṃ mama. pe.
saddavicāraṃ etaṃ mama.
gandhavicāraṃ etaṃ mama.
rasavicāraṃ etaṃ mama.
phoṭṭhabbavicāraṃ etaṃ mama.
dhammavicāraṃ etaṃ mama, esohamasmi, eso me attāti — abhinivesaparāmāso diṭṭhi.
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+0.9 – KN Snp 5.14 Dhamma-takka equivalent, using four jhanas to realize nirvana
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+§9.1 – Sutta Nipāta 5.14
| ♦ 1112. (udayāti bhagavā) | The Buddha: | |
| ♦ “pahānaṃ kāma-c-chandānaṃ, | the abandoning of both sensual-desires | |
| domanassāna cūbhayaṃ. | and distressed mental states, | |
| ♦ thinassa ca panūdanaṃ, | Dispelling of Sloth, | |
| kukkuccānaṃ nivāraṇaṃ. | regrets being warded off. [These are referencing the five hindrances] | |
| ♦ 1113. ♦ “upekkhā-sati-saṃ-suddhaṃ, |
[fourth jhāna is] equanimous observation & [Dharma] remembrance purified, | |
| Dhamma-takka-purejavaṃ. | with ☸Dharma-thoughts [of first jhāna] preceding that. | |
| ♦ aññā-vimokkhaṃ pa-brūmi, | this is the final knowledge emancipation that I speak of, | |
| avijjāya pa-bhedanaṃ”. | ignorance breaking-up.. | |
| ♦ 1114. | Udaya: | |
| ♦ “kiṃsu saṃ-yojano loko, | what fetters the world? | |
| kiṃsu tassa vicāraṇaṃ. | With what is it examined? | |
| ♦ kissassa vip-pahānena, | with what being abandoned | |
| nibbānaṃ iti vuccati”. | is nirvana spoken of? | |
| ♦ 1115. | The Buddha: | |
| ♦ “nandi-saṃ-yojano loko, | delight fetters the world. | |
| vitakkassa vicāraṇaṃ. | with [wrong] thoughts [delight] is explored, with directed-thought [of first jhāna, the nature of wrong thought] is examined. | |
| ♦ taṇhāya vip-pahānena, | Through craving’s abandoning | |
| nibbānaṃ iti vuccati”. | nirvana is spoken of. | |